tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894764035439419656.post6122824156410078472..comments2024-01-07T00:04:51.972-08:00Comments on Humble Wonderful: Testify!Tonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07412650446530771853noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894764035439419656.post-82825448473622174562011-12-11T16:40:55.464-08:002011-12-11T16:40:55.464-08:00Sorry Alex not AlyxSorry Alex not AlyxTonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412650446530771853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894764035439419656.post-46049229282749736572011-12-11T16:34:00.964-08:002011-12-11T16:34:00.964-08:00Hi Alyx
This is a funny turn around. Usually I dis...Hi Alyx<br />This is a funny turn around. Usually I disagree with comments to defend what I wrote. :) <br />I do feel that some of my comments/criticisms are applicable to a broader than purely penticostal version of Christian tetimony. Other comments I made certainly aren't.<br />That's why I feel I wrecked the piece. By conflating the two it's too slippery to engage with, or even for me to follow. Do I have an objection to personal testimony that is "of a life-changed" nature? Not really though I find its use as evidence overstated. <br />Thats not the same as having doubts about corporeal Jesus meetings that fall apart when detail is required. They're two valid questions, neither entirely seperate or just the same.<br />Glad you seemed to enjoy it and I like what your alluding to in terms of what I understand as sacramental ways of knowing God. These are ideas that protestant evangelicals and materialist non-theists often miss and as you say occupy a space as both lie and bridge to faith. Does my head in. :)Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412650446530771853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894764035439419656.post-52289179347102720642011-12-11T16:20:50.249-08:002011-12-11T16:20:50.249-08:00Wow my iPhone hates the formatting rules in here l...Wow my iPhone hates the formatting rules in here lol.<br /><br />Hadn't quite finished before.. Even John I in the beginning etc.. From a linguistic perspective tries to cover the issue of representation and attempts to undermine the implicit separation between the word and the thing it represents by insisting that the word itself is the thing you must have faith in and that it is god. Nice, but you still don't get to witness the corporeal Jesus. Yes you are asking too much of christianity. But theres nothing wrong with asking.. It's still a nifty tradition that has done much 'good'.DeusRegisPullushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10915633045723875490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894764035439419656.post-36581723533123852922011-12-11T14:41:37.680-08:002011-12-11T14:41:37.680-08:00No you haven't wrecked the peice at all.. The ...No you haven't wrecked the peice at all.. The use of metaphor is intrinsic to the liturgy.. Jesus asked his 'freinds' to suspend their disbelief repeatedly.. The Eucharist is built on metaphor.. This is the lie and the bridge to faith simultaneously.. In fact.. Having your cake and eating it is at the very core of making a 'leap of faith'DeusRegisPullushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10915633045723875490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894764035439419656.post-64379247886005798892011-12-03T18:57:16.520-08:002011-12-03T18:57:16.520-08:00Amendment appreciated. :)Amendment appreciated. :)Simon Camillerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14813561936965631699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894764035439419656.post-85923113823910204842011-12-02T17:53:56.101-08:002011-12-02T17:53:56.101-08:00A conversation with my brother pointed out a mista...A conversation with my brother pointed out a mistake I'd made in this piece. I think its a good policy not to amend what I've published so Im putting this kind of apology/correction in the comments.<br /><br />This piece should have addressed Pentecostalism more directly than Evangelicanism. The historical statements about evangelicanism are correct (linking them with the salvos and liberalised liturgical practices) but the testimonies of a physical and tactile Jesus are much more Pentecostal.<br />While Pentecostalism may have grown out of evangelicanism (estatic worship is a cross over point) atleast more so than other branches of Christianity lumpoing them together is no more valid than lumping protestantism in with catholicism as one "grew out of" the other there too. Non-evangelical Christians may see a family resemblance between evangelicals and pentecostals just as Orthodox Christains can call both Anglicans and Roman Catholics the Western Church but in this blog and for this topic the lack of distinction is in error. Evangelical testimony is substantially different from penticostal testimony and the latter is really the focus of this blog.<br />In fact my sloppiness making this distinction wrecks the whole piece. Aaaagh.<br />Sorry for the sloppiness.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412650446530771853noreply@blogger.com